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Friday Night Knife Fights: AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON VS. THE HOWLING (Conclusion)

Posted in 1980s Horror, 2012, Classic Films, Friday Night Knife Fights, Werewolf Movies, Werewolves with tags , , , , , on January 27, 2012 by knifefighter

FRIDAY NIGHT KNIFE FIGHTS:  THE HOWLING (1981) vs. AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON (1981)
PART 3 (Conclusion)
With Michael Arruda, L.L. Soares, Mark Onspaugh and Nick Cato

MICHAEL ARRUDA:  Welcome back everyone to the third and final installment of our HOWLING vs. AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON debate.  For the past two Fridays, our panel of Cinema Knife Fighters has been trying to determine which one of these werewolf classics is the better movie.  I’m joined, as always, by L.L. Soares; and L.L., our bout between these two films has become somewhat lopsided, as AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF won the past couple of rounds and now leads THE HOWLING by a score of four rounds to one.

L.L. SOARES:  I’m not surprised.  While I like both movies a lot, I think we’re going to find that AMERICAN WEREWOLF is the better movie of the two.

MARK ONSPAUGH:  Don’t count your werewolves before they transform!  THE HOWLING is every bit as good as AMERICAN WEREWOLF and then some, and if you guys would listen to me, you’d understand why.

LS:  Be quiet, you!  We haven’t even introduced you yet!

MA:  That’s right.  L.L. and I are joined once again by Mark Onspaugh and Nick Cato.  Thanks, guys, for being here on three successive Fridays.  Having fun?

MO:  Definitely.

NICK CATO:  Always a pleasure to talk about these movies.  And it’s a cheap date.

LS:  What?  No flowers?  No beer?

MO:  It’s been awesome, except my movie THE HOWLING hasn’t been doing that well in our debate.

MA:  That’s okay.  There’s still plenty of time left.  On that note, let’s get back to the business at hand.  It’s our final segment tonight, so before we go home this evening, one of these two movies will emerge as the winner.

On to Round 6.

The question is:  Which film is scarier?  Nick, let’s start off with you.

NC:  I found THE HOWLING much scarier than AMERICAN WEREWOLF.

MO:  Way to go, Nick!

NC:  But then again AMERICAN WEREWOLF was a dark comedy of sorts, so I’m not sure how scary it was trying to be.  But THE HOWLING is scarier.

LS:  I didn’t really find either movie all that scary, but I guess THE HOWLING is the more visceral story. There’s a clear-cut representation of good and evil. In AMERICAN WEREWOLF, that line is more blurred, and the movie also balances out horror and humor extremely well.

I think THE HOWLING is more scary in a “meat and potatoes” way. AMERICAN WEREWOLF, however, is more satisfying over all, in my opinion. But I give this one to THE HOWLING.

MA: I’m with you in that I honestly don’t find either film all that scary, and to me, that’s a weakness of both movies. I’d call it a draw, here.

MO:  THE HOWLING is definitely scarier.  Even if some of the characters weren’t werewolves, they’re not people you’d want to be stranded in the woods with.

MA:  That’s true.

Well, believe it or not, THE HOWLING won this Round as all three of you cited it as being the scarier film, and I called it a draw.  Round 6 goes to THE HOWLING.

MO:  Aaaawwwoooo!!!  THE HOWLING is coming back!

MA: Yep, it has closed the gap somewhat, but AMERICAN WEREWOLF still leads 4-2.

On to Round 7.

Which film, if any, belongs in the same conversation as older classics like THE WOLF MAN (1941) and Hammer’s THE CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF (1961)?

LS:  Well, I think AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON definitely belongs in the same class as the older classics. It’s one of the best werewolf movies ever made. Even superior to something like CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF (1962).

MA:  Whoa! Hold onto your wolfsbane!

Better than CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF?  I don’t think so.

Oliver Reed in CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF (1961), a great werewolf movie, but it really has nothing to do with this debate.

LS:  Who asked you? And since when is CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF such a cinematic titan?

MA:  Well, when ranking werewolf movies, I think it’s topped only by THE WOLF MAN.

LS:  That’s the problem  – you’re thinking again. As usual, you’re wrong.  I like CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF, but both of the movies we’re discussing tonight are just as good, if not better.

MA:  I disagree, but that being said, since AMERICAN WEREWOLF is a contemporary, updated tale with a devilish sense of humor, it is the more entertaining movie of the two, but I like the werewolf make-up on Oliver Reed so much more than the werewolf in AMERICAN WEREWOLF.  It’s just the better werewolf movie.

LS:  AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON blows CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF out of the water.  Besides, what do you know?  Has HAMMER FILMS ever made anything you didn’t like?

MA:  I’m sure I could come up with one if I thought about it long enough.

MO: Hey guys, isn’t this a battle between AMERICAN WEREWOLF and THE HOWLING? 

LS: Yeah, since when did this turn into a debate about CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF?? If you want me to tear apart what’s wrong with CURSE, just say the word, because it’s far from a perfect movie.

MA: That’ll be a debate for another night.  Okay, let’s get back on topic.

LS (to MO):  You really like THE HOWLING, don’t you?

MO: Yes!

LS: And I have to say, I don’t want to completely bash THE HOWLING. The truth is, I like it a lot, too. While I think AMERICAN WEREWOLF is better, I think THE HOWLING is still a classic of the werewolf genre and belongs in the same group with THE WOLF MAN, too, especially if Arruda is including CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF in that group. So I would say that both THE HOWLING and AMERICAN WEREWOLF fit the bill as genre classics.

YAAARGH!


MA:  Well, regarding the two movies we’re discussing today, I strongly prefer AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF.   However, I’m not sure I’d include it in the same conversation with THE WOLF MAN or CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF, which are my two favorite werewolf movies.

And I feel the same way about THE HOWLING.

The main reason?  The weakest links of both these movies are the werewolves in them.  Without decent werewolves in either movie, I can’t consider either one as a classic werewolf movie.  I think AMERICAN WEREWOLF is a notch below THE WOLF MAN and THE CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF, and THE HOWLING is several notches below.

So, my answer is neither.

MO:  I completely disagree with you.

Both films pioneered makeup effects, and both have a tragic protagonist.  If you are having a conversation about important werewolf movies (as opposed to the dozens – it seems – HOWLING sequels or VAN HELSING) then you need to include both of these.

MA:  I think our answers just cancelled each other out.

MO: You’re killing me, man!

NC:  I’d include both, too.

MA:  Well, I say neither, and the three of you say both. So Round 7 goes to both movies.

LS: Give them each a point!

MA: Okay, so now AMERICAN WEREWOLF leads THE HOWLING 5 to 3.

It’s time for the Final Round, when we ask: All things considered, which one is the better movie?

Now, remember, just like in real boxing, even though one fighter may be ahead on points, he can still be knocked out in the final round.  So, there’s still hope for THE HOWLING.

MO: And how would that work exactly?

MA:  In this round, we’re picking which one is the better movie, and so if we all picked THE HOWLING, that would be considered a knock-out.  Mark, why don’t you get this final round started?

MO:  Except for Baker’s awesome transformation, the make-up on the victims (including a terrific decapitation) and Griffin Dunne’s hilarious portrayal of undead best friend Jack, I have to give it to THE HOWLING.  If the final werewolf in AMERICAN WEREWOLF had been better with more screen time—.  Naw, I’m still going with THE HOWLING.

NC:  Despite being a fan of horror comedies, I think THE HOWLING is the better werewolf film, as AMERICAN WEREWOLF is slowed down by a couple of non-wolf side-plots. So, like Mark here, I’m also picking THE HOWLING.

LS:  I think AMERICAN WEREWOLF is the better movie, hands down. But THE HOWLING has a lot going for it, too. I think the two films make a great double-feature.

MA:  No surprise here, I’m going with AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON.  It has the better script, the more memorable characters, and I like its story much better than the one told in THE HOWLING.  Both movies attempt to update the werewolf story to modern times, and both succeed, although AMERICAN WEREWOLF succeeds more.
Had AMERICAN WEREWOLF been able to include a scary, ferocious, and realistic looking werewolf in its movie, it would be one of my all-time favorite werewolf films.  I love everything about it except for the actual werewolf.

LS: Yeah, I gotta agree that the final werewolf is a letdown.

MA: So, our Final Round is a draw, as Mark and Nick chose THE HOWLING, while L.L. and I chose AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON. So each one gets another point.

That means that our final tally is AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON6  and THE HOWLING – 4.

Which means the winner of tonight’s FRIDAY NIGHT KNIFE FIGHT is AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON.

AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON wins! Hurray!

LS:  As it should be.  It’s the better movie.

MO:  Nope.  It’s THE HOWLING, but I’ll concede that AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF OF LONDON is very good, and I can see why you guys chose it.  You’re just wrong.  (laughs).

MA:  Well, before we come to blows here, it’s time to say so long, because we’re out of time.  So for the final time tonight, thanks guys!

NC:  You’re welcome.

MO:  Any time.

LS:  Any place!  Especially if it has a bar!

MA:  I’m Michael Arruda, and on behalf of L.L. Soares, Mark Onspaugh, Nick Cato and myself, thank you all for joining us, and we look forward to seeing you next time on FRIDAY NIGHT KNIFE FIGHTS!

Good night everybody!

—END—

© Copyright 2012 by Michael Arruda, L.L. Soares, Mark Onspaugh and Nick Cato

COMING ATTRACTIONS: OUR FEBRUARY PREVIEW

Posted in 2010, Cinema Knife Fights, Coming Attractions with tags , , , on February 9, 2010 by knifefighter

CINEMA KNIFE FIGHT:  FEBRUARY 2010 MOVIES PREVIEW
by Michael Arruda and L.L. Soares

(MICHAEL ARRUDA and L.L. SOARES creep through a fog shrouded forest, each carrying a hunting rifle.  A full moon shines overhead.)

MA:  Ssh!  I think I hear something.

LS:  That’s just your stomach.  I told you not to eat all that roast beast!  (Points to a strange looking flower.)  Look!  Wolfsbane!

MA (recites):

“Even a man who is pure in heart

And who says his prayers by night

May become a wolf when the wolfsbane blooms

And the autumn moon is bright.”

LS: Ahh, the immortal words of Maria Ouspenskaya as the wise old gypsy woman, Maleva!

MA:  Of course, this little ditty comes from Universal’s THE WOLF MAN (1941).  The words proved so popular that over the years they’ve been listed in some sources as an “Ancient Gypsy Rhyme,” when in reality, they were penned by screenwriter Curt Siodmak.  These lines were also spoken in the film by Evelyn Ankers and Claude Rains.  In fact, about the only person who doesn’t utter these words in the movie is Lon Chaney Jr. as the Wolf Man!

THE WOLF MAN is arguably the best werewolf movie ever made, and we’ll be kicking off our February columns with a review of the remake of THE WOLF MAN starring Benicio Del Toro and Anthony Hopkins.  It opens on February 12.

LS:  Yeah, I’m a big fan of the original WOLF MAN, too. It was one of the last great Universal horror films of the 1940s. And it introduced the world to Larry Talbot, as played by Lon Chaney, Jr. – a great, sympathetic character who truly does not want to turn into a werewolf and endanger the lives of the ones he loves.

And I hope they have a gypsy woman in the new one as cool as Ouspenskaya was!

(A sexy female model wearing gypsy garb strolls by and blows a kiss at them.)

LS:  I said cool, not hot!

MA:  Hot’s not so bad!

LS:  You’re right.

I’m surprised it has taken so long for someone to remake this movie, especially considering how many remakes of classics like FRANKENSTEIN and DRACULA there have been.

MA:  Yes, for some reason werewolf movies have never taken off.  Even Hammer Films which made their own FRANKENSTEIN and DRACULA series only made the one werewolf picture, THE CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF (1961) starring Oliver Reed, a classic in its own right.

LS: Yeah, CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF was pretty great, too.

(They hear a loud roar)

MA:  THAT wasn’t my stomach.

Anyway, I have to admit, the previews for this one look very good, but I’ll reserve judgment until I see the movie.  I like the old black and white Universal monster movies so much I cringe at the idea of their being remade.  I’m not against remakes in general— heck, I got into horror because of the Hammer remakes— but I just don’t want to see anything awful and silly like VAN HELSING (2004).

The previews for THE WOLF MAN look serious enough, so hopefully this will bode well for the movie itself.  To me, the biggest sticking point of any modern day werewolf movie is the depiction of the werewolf.  I’ve yet to see a CGI werewolf that I’ve liked or that I’ve found scary.  I enjoy the old-fashioned man-in-make-up werewolves of yesteryear, as I actually find these older depictions scarier.  If the folks making the new WOLF MAN get the werewolf right, then that’ll go a long way.

LS: I think the remake of THE WOLF MAN looks pretty good, too. First off, it’s a period piece, which I think works better than if it had been brought into the present day. Secondly, it has two great actors in it, Benecio del Toro as Larry Talbot, and Anthony Hopkins has his father. Not bad choices at all! And what I’ve seen of the werewolf looks pretty cool. They only show him briefly in the trailer, but there are some cool transformation scenes. I’m guessing they’ll be using a mixture of make-up effects and CGI.

Considering this one had a lot of trouble early on, such as one director leaving and another taking over, this movie looks damn good and is one of the films I was most looking forward to in 2010. I hope it’s as good as it looks, but as you said, I’ll reserve judgment until I actually see it.

(MA & LS leave the forest and hop into a small row boat.  They head out to sea, towards a scary looking building situated high on an island cliff.)

MA:  Next up, it’s the heavy hitters, as director Martin Scorsese and actor Leonardo DiCaprio take on the genre with SHUTTER ISLAND, coming out on February 19.  I would guess that this one will draw in a lot of folks who don’t otherwise go to horror movies, because of the star power of DiCaprio and Scorsese.

The preview looks good enough, but to be honest, I have no idea how this one’s going to be.  It could be polished yet dull, hopelessly predictable, or it could be edgy and exciting, full of things unexpected.

LS:  Yeah, this one could go either way. I’m a Scorcese fan, but his last few films haven’t been as satisfying to me as his earlier work. Even the much-ballyhooed THE DEPARTED was one I liked, but didn’t love. Part of the problem has been his casting choices, such as DiCaprio, who has worked with Scorcese before, and is here again. I’m just not much of a fan of the guy. But the movie looks atmospheric enough. And it is Scorcese, so I’m sure it will have some good things going for it.

(MA & LS pass by the island and land on shore of the mainland.  They leave their boat and head towards a small town.)

MA:  Last up in February is THE CRAZIES, due out on February 26.  This one’s also a remake.  I didn’t see the original.  You must have seen it, right?

LS: Yeah, the original THE CRAZIES was directed by George A. Romero in 1973, and while I’ve seen most of Romero’s output, I have to admit, I think THE CRAZIES is one of his weakest films. In a lot of ways I just thought it was a retread of his classic, NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD, except instead of zombies we have a virus that makes people go crazy.

Since I thought the original was less than spectacular, this is the perfect kind of movie for a remake, if a director were to actually improve upon it. That’s the big question with this one. Is it going to be an improvement, or just a waste of time?

MA:  I liked the preview a lot, so I’m hoping THE CRAZIES will be a good one.

(MA and LS find themselves standing in the center of town, when suddenly they are surrounded by a group of townspeople gone crazy.  These people look like undead zombies.  A werewolf, up high on the roof of a building, howls at the full moon, then jumps down and joins the group of crazy people surrounding MA & LS.

MA:  Okay, I guess we’re all here.

LS:  Excellent!  (Opens door to a pub and motions for everyone to enter.)  Who’s buying?

MA (to audience):  Well, that does it for our Coming Attractions preview for February.  We’ll see you next weekend with our review of THE WOLF MAN.

LS:  In the meantime—.

(Werewolf approaches and hands them each a beer.  They all howl.)

—END—

Larry Talbot sure hopes the remake of

THE WOLF MAN doesn’t suck.

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