CINEMA KNIFE FIGHT: THE DARK KNIGHT RISES (2012)
By Michael Arruda and L.L. Soares
(SCENE: INTERIOR OF THE BAT CAVE. MICHAEL ARRUDA enters and presses a button that opens a secret panel. Inside is a BATMAN costume, which he puts on. He is next seen standing in front of a mirror, looking at himself)
ARRUDA
(Looks very serious)
I’m Batman.
(L.L. SOARES suddenly appears behind him, also wearing a BATMAN costume.
SOARES
No, I’m Batman.
ARRUDA
Not this again! We can’t both be Batman!
SOARES
That’s right. So you’ll have to change.
ARRUDA
I was Batman first.
(ALFRED the Butler arrives and pushes the two of them apart)
ALFRED
Enough of this fighting! You two hooligans have a movie to review.
SOARES
He’s right, you know. Alfred’s always right.
ARRUDA
Then why don’t you start it off, then.
SOARES
Maybe I will!
THE DARK KNIGHT RISES (2012) is the third movie in the Batman trilogy by director Christopher Nolan, which began with BATMAN BEGINS (2005) and THE DARK KNIGHT (2008). As this new movie begins, it is eight years after the events of the last one. The death of Harvey Dent, the crusading district attorney who was also the villainous Two-Face in the last movie, has been blamed on Batman. Bruce Wayne—who is Batman’s alter ego for anyone who just arrived from Mars…
(JOHN CARTER walks by.)
JOHN CARTER
Thanks for letting me know.
SOARES
So, as I was saying, Bruce Wayne not only retired his caped persona, he completely retired from the outside world, holing up in his room and becoming a mysterious, unseen figure who everyone thinks is a reclusive nut like Howard Hughes. Wayne now walks with a cane and has his meals delivered to his room by servants.
Enter Selina Kyle, a waitress for a party at Wayne’s mansion, who is really a nefarious cat burglar (although she is never called it in the movie, she’s obviously the Batman nemesis Catwoman!!). She sneaks up into Bruce Wayne’s room to deliver his dinner, and robs his safe in the process. He lets her get away because he has a tracking device on the pearl necklace she swiped.
ARRUDA
Actually, the movie begins with a bang with the villain Bane kidnapping a Russian scientist from an airplane in mid-flight. It’s a rapid-fire action scene, that was very Bond-like.
SOARES
True enough. I liked that scene a lot, by the way, and I wish the whole movie was as action-packed.
What makes Bruce Wayne return to the world, especially his beloved Gotham City, is the arrival of the murderous Bane, who takes up residence in the sewers of the city, with an army of mercenaries who will do anything for him, even die. As Wayne (and we) eventually learns, his past and Bane’s are actually linked. And in this bad guy, Batman might have finally met his match.
So Bane is the main baddie here, but Selina Kyle shows up a lot to provide more villainy, although hers is less obviously bad, since there’s a lot of sexual tension between her and Batman. In a lot of ways, Catwoman seems more like an anti-hero who makes her living stealing expensive stuff than a true villain. And while there are moments when she proves she might not be the best person to trust, there are other scenes that give her a chance to redeem herself.
By the time Bane has taken over Gotham City with his gang of thugs, cutting the city off from the outside world by blowing up all ways out, and getting that previously mentioned Russian scientist to activate a nuclear bomb (formerly a fusion device to create unlimited clean fuel, but now turned into a weapon)in order to hold the city ransom, the story has become a comic book-inspired epic with only Batman standing between the life and death of Gotham! Bane tells the citizenry that he is doing this for their own good—leading a revolution to give the city back to the people—a revolution that includes freeing all violent convicts from their prison for some reason…
Of course, Batman isn’t much help later on in the movie when his back is broken!
ARRUDA
Yes, his back is broken, but not his spirit.
SOARES
Well, once again, Christopher Nolan delivers a big, nicely shot film with lots of atmosphere. Let’s face it, Nolan movies look great.
ARRUDA
I agree.
SOARES
But I had some big problems with this one. While I thought it looked good, and I liked the story for the most part, I thought THE DARK KNIGHT RISES was way too long, and that the pacing was incredibly slow at times.
ARRUDA
I don’t know if I’d call it incredibly slow, but yes, there were some parts where things slowed down a bit.
SOARES
This is not the first time I’ve felt this way about a Nolan movie. Both of his previous Batman films were over two hours long as well, with BATMAN BEGINS clocking in at 140 minutes and THE DARK KNIGHT coming in at 152 minutes. But THE DARK KNIGHT RISES has them both beat, clocking in at 164 minutes—well over two and a half hours!—and there were lots of times when the movie felt that long to me, if not longer. Instead of being an action movie, more than half of THE DARK KNIGHT RISES is an inaction movie. But this isn’t just the case with his Batman movies. I felt the same way about Nolan’s INCEPTION (2010), which was also big and complex and ambitious and flashy, but also painfully slow at times. This guy needs an editor who can actually say “no” sometimes. And if he finds one, he should lend the person out to Martin Scorsese, too, who has been just as indulgent the last couple of decades.
I just really don’t like the pacing here at all. And I think Nolan is only able to get away with this because he’s considered a director with “vision” —and the fact that these movies make a ton of money!
In comparison, a movie like Marvel’s THE AVENGERS is a lot less complex, but twice as much fun.
ARRUDA
Yes, THE AVENGERS is more fun, and I definitely liked THE AVENGERS more than THE DARK KNIGHT RISES, but it’s more fun because the whole Marvel superhero world is more fun than the darker DC Batman world.
SOARES
But there’s a lot to like here as well. The performances by the lead characters are great. Christian Bale again plays Bruce Wayne/Batman, and he does a decent job here, even if I think Batman is a lot more interesting than Wayne.
ARRUDA
I would have to say that of his three performances as Batman, Bale impressed me the most here in this movie. I bought that he had given up on the world, after the death of his girlfriend Rachel in THE DARK KNIGHT. I liked his Bruce Wayne scenes here much more than in the other two movies, I think because he wasn’t going around as the silly billionaire playboy. Bruce Wayne seems to be facing some problem in nearly every scene he’s in.
And I really felt his anger as Batman when he was trying to defeat Bane and failing. Batman feeds off this anger as the movie goes on, and he uses it to drive himself to get back into shape, to heal his body and break out of prison and eventually get back to Gotham.
I really enjoyed Christian Bale’s performance in this movie, more so than in the previous two Batman movies.
SOARES
Anne Hathaway actually surprised me as Selina Kyle/ Catwoman. I have to admit, when I first heard she had been cast in the role, I thought it was a mistake, but she turns out to be one of the best things about THE DARK KNIGHT RISES. She’s pretty much perfect in her scenes, and I wished she was onscreen more!
(CATWOMAN pops up in a window)
CATWOMAN
That’s a simply puuurrrr-fect description of my role in this movie.
SOARES
Why thank you!
ARRUDA
I liked Hathaway a lot too. She delivers a fine performance. However, I was more wowed by Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman in BATMAN RETURNS (1992). Of the two, Pfeiffer delivered the more dominating performance.
(THE PENGUIN pops up from under the floor)
PENGUIN
But how come I’m not in this one? Quack quack quack.
CATWOMAN
You can’t be in all the movies.
PENGUIN
But I’ve never even heard of this Bane guy before. Quack quack.
SOARES
I always wondered, Mr. Penguin. Why do you always quack like a duck when you’re supposed to be a penguin?
PENGUIN
How dare you, you whippersnapper! I might just whack you with my old umbrella. Quack quack quack.
ARRUDA
I always wondered that too.
CATWOMAN
Me, too!
SOARES
I don’t think he knows a whole lot about birds.
ALFRED
The real Batman is on his way! He’s coming!
PENGUIN
Yikes! I better waddle out of here! Quack quack.
CATWOMAN
Me, too!
SOARES
I also really liked Tom Hardy as Bane. Not only is he a character who underwent the same physical training as Batman, and is not just brawn but brains as well, but his fight scenes with Batman are very intense and really seem dangerous. He’s a formidable bad guy who isn’t afraid to get his hands (or anything else) dirty, and Hardy makes him pretty menacing. With his thick, muscular body, and a freaky mask that looks like something out of the SAW films, Bane is visually intimidating as well.
ARRUDA
I liked Hardy a lot too, and his performance as Bane was one of my favorite parts of the movie. As you said, he’s a formidable foe—brutal, scary, and intense—and that first fight scene between Bane and Batman is one of the better scenes in the movie. You really feel that Batman just wants to pound this guy, but since they’re so evenly matched, he can’t, and then, once Bane gets the upper hand, the shift in power make Bane all the more deadly and reduces Batman to a near-dead prisoner.
SOARES
I thought that fight scene, especially, was amazing. It’s so visceral. It has more in common with a great boxing movie than a superhero movie.
ARRUDA
I had heard that it was really difficult to understand what Bane was saying in the movie, but I didn’t find this to be the case. Other than maybe for a brief line here and there, I understood him fine.
SOARES
Yeah, I understood him for the most part, too. But with that intricate mask of his, it is sometimes a little difficult to hear what he’s saying. Before I saw the movie, I’d heard a lot of people saying it was hard to hear him, too, but I noticed, if you listen carefully enough, it’s not that bad. Rumor has it that, for the final movie, Hardy redubbed some of his lines to make them more understandable, and yet sometimes you still have to listen closely to figure out what’s being said. For a big summer blockbuster, I don’t understand why his voice couldn’t have been even clearer. You shouldn’t have to struggle at all to hear a main character talk every time he’s onscreen.
ARRUDA
Like I said, I didn’t have a problem with this at all.
SOARES
I also thought Hardy should be applauded for keeping his mask on throughout the movie. If you notice, most actors want you to see their real face as much as possible. Think of Iron Man, who, even when he’s suited up, we get to see inside the helmet to see Robert Downey Jr.’s face a lot. It’s no doubt a matter of ego—actors, by nature, want to be seen—but in the comics, masks are a big party of the story, and movies that give us a lot of unnecessary unmaskings just to appease actors’ vanity (the Tobey Maguire SPIDER-MAN movies come instantly to mind) just annoy the hell out of me. If you’re going to play a masked character, go all the way with it, and Hardy does just that. But it doesn’t matter if you get to see his real face or not; he’s terrific in the role, and not seeing his face actually makes his character even darker. You forget that Tom Hardy is playing him and believe that this is Bane onscreen. The illusion isn’t broken.
As for the other characters in the movie, I always feel that the masked characters are the most interesting ones in a Batman movie, and I don’t care about the “normal” people as much. And the same is true here. No matter how much I think Gary Oldman is a great actor, his Commissioner Gordon mostly bores me to tears, as do most of the characters who aren’t the “big three.” Even Joseph Gordon-Levitt as a “cop with a secret,” while he might be the most compelling of the “civilian” characters, wasn’t exactly all that riveting a lot of the time. And Michael Caine is an acting legend, but his Alfred Pennyworth is one of his more mediocre roles at best.
ALFRED
How dare you!
ARRUDA
The role might be mediocre, but Caine certainly isn’t! He’s excellent here as Alfred. The same can be said for Gary Oldman as Commissioner Gordon. Neither one of these guys is boring.
SOARES
Says you!
ARRUDA
And while Joseph Gordon-Levitt is very good here, I felt the movie spent too much time on him. I would have rather seen more Catwoman scenes.
SOARES
Me, too. More Catwoman!!
But I’ve felt this way about all of the Nolan Batman movies, and thought this was the most glaring in the middle film, THE DARK KNIGHT, which might also have been the best film of the trilogy, where compared to Batman, Two-Face and especially Heath Ledger’s amazing turn as the Joker, the normal people were a total snooze.
ARRUDA
I completely disagree! There’s not a boring nanosecond in THE DARK KNIGHT, what are you talking about?
SOARES
Maybe if you weren’t such a fawning fanboy, you’d know what I’m talking about. The whole Asian gangster storyline in THE DARK KNIGHT especially, is tedious as hell. The slowness of the rest of the movie is what makes the Joker scenes even better, because Heath Ledger is the only one in the movie with a real pulse!
ARRUDA
That’s crap. The Asian gangster storyline in THE DARK KNIGHT isn’t dull at all. Have you forgotten the scene where Batman abducts the head Asian gangster from his heavily guarded skyscraper in a daring airplane escape, not to mention the scene where the Joker humiliates the Asian villains in front of the other gangsters?
But we should move on from THE DARK KNIGHT and get back to today’s movie, THE DARK KNIGHT RISES.
SOARES
What this means is when costumed characters on not onscreen, the movie lags. And when a movie has as many pacing problems as THE DARK KNIGHT RISES does to begin with, this can be a little painful.
(A strange little creature appears out of thin air, dressed in a little Batman outfit)
SOARES
Who the hell are you?
BAT MITE
I’m Bat Mite! Don’t you recognize me from the old Batman cartoons of the 1970s? They added me so that little kids would watch the show. How come I’m not in this movie?
ARRUDA
Maybe because you’re awful.
SOARES
Yeah, for some reason I think you’d be out of place in THE DARK KNIGHT RISES. You’re kind of a silly character.
BAT MITE
Silly? How dare you! I’ll have you know that I was even more popular than Scrappy Doo!
ALFRED
The real Batman’s coming! He’s almost here!
BAT MITE
Yikes, I better get out of here before he yells at me!
(BAT MITE disappears in a puff of smoke)
SOARES
I never understood what kind of creature Bat Mite was supposed to be. Do you know?
ARRUDA
Enough about that. Finish the review before the real Batman catches us here!
SOARES
Okay.
The screenplay by Christopher and Jonathan Nolan (based on a story by Christopher Nolan and comic book-screenwriter extraordinaire David S. Goyer)is uneven, but has a lot of potential. With a decent editor, tighter pacing, and the removal of unnecessary scenes that do not further the plot, this script, and the movie, could have been terrific. But it’s weakened a lot by its inability to keep things brisk and exciting throughout.
There are also lots of holes in logic if you look at it closely, one of which is how Bane and his gang were able to occupy Gotham for three whole months without the government or anyone else being able to stop them. And where are the other superheroes in the DC Universe? I guess they don’t exist in Nolan’s movies, but Superman could have been a big help here.
And, when Bruce Wayne finds himself in a weird prison called The Pit in another country, how does he get back to Gotham City when he finally finds his way out? It looks like he’s in the Middle East somewhere. And it’s not like they left him with his wallet and American Express traveler’s checks.
And did I mention the movie lags at times?
I thought there was a lot to like about THE DARK KNIGHT RISES, but also plenty that inhibited it from being the masterpiece Nolan set out to make. It’s more a movie with lots of potential than one that totally delivers the goods. For that reason, I give it three knives out of five, mostly because of the film’s epic scope and the fine acting of the leads.
What did you think of it, Michael?
ARRUDA
I liked it, but I can’t say that I loved it.
I can’t ignore the inevitable comparison to THE DARK KNIGHT, a movie that fired on all cylinders and was nearly perfect in its execution. It’s nearly impossible to repeat perfection, and THE DARK KNIGHT RISES is no exception. I agree with what you said about it being uneven.
First and foremost, the story isn’t as strong as the story in THE DARK KNIGHT. I understood completely where the Joker was coming from in THE DARK KNIGHT and what he was doing. He was all about one thing: chaos. It was simple, but it worked.
SOARES
Not entirely. The Joker’s storyline worked. Even the Two-Face stuff was pretty good. But the rest of it wasn’t all that compelling. I actually think, in some ways, the story in THE DARK KNIGHT RISES was a little better.
ARRUDA
I thought THE DARK KNIGHT story was tighter and much more compelling from start to finish.
Back to THE DARK KNIGHT RISES, I didn’t find Bane’s motives quite as easy to understand, and as much as I liked Bane as a villain, Tom Hardy doesn’t quite match the brilliance of what Heath Ledger did with his Joker.
SOARES
The characters are as different as apples and oranges. Bane was powerful and visceral and mostly spoke with his fists. The Joker was compelling because he was completely insane and unpredictable. Of course the more flamboyant role is going to be more entertaining.
ARRUDA
I don’t care if they’re not the same type of character. They’re both villains, and as such, Ledger’s performance as the Joker was off the charts. Hardy’s performance as Bane wasn’t.
The action scenes all looked good, but none of them really blew me away. I did like that first fight scene between Batman and Bane, but the second time they meet, the fight should have been better, but it’s not. That was disappointing.
I mentioned earlier how the opening scene was very James Bond-like, but at times, THE DARK KNIGHT RISES reminded me of another movie series: ROCKY. Like Rocky Balboa, Batman loses his “bout” to a stronger foe midway through the film, and then he has to train his older, broken body to fight against a stronger foe. I could almost hear Bill Conti’s ROCKY theme playing when Batman was building himself back up in that prison.
Like you, I wasn’t wowed by the screenplay, thought there were too many characters, and would have preferred a tighter story about Batman, Catwoman, and Bane, because I really liked these three characters.
And again, I think this was Bale’s best performance as Batman.
I place THE DARK KNIGHT RISES in the middle of Nolan’s Batman trilogy, behind THE DARK KNIGHT but better than the first one, BATMAN BEGINS.
I give THE DARK KNIGHT RISES three knives.
SOARES
That’s all? I was sure you were going to like this movie more than I did!
ARRUDA
In my book, three knives is a very good rating. I view two and a half knives as average, and I certainly found THE DARK KNIGHT RISES to be above average.
SOARES
Barely…
(The REAL BATMAN enters the room and is shocked to find two imposters wearing his costume)
REAL BATMAN
Alfred, what’s going on here? Who are these two idiots?
ALFRED
I have no idea, sir. I told them they couldn’t stay here, but they won’t leave.
ARRUDA
Uh oh, I guess we’ll have to wrap this one up.
SOARES
Yeah, thanks a lot for finking on us, Alfred! (to Arruda) We better get out of here before he tries to break our backs.
REAL BATMAN
(Shaking his fist)
I’ll get you two yet!
-END-
© Copyright 2012 by Michael Arruda and L.L. Soares
Michael Arruda gives THE DARK KNIGHT RISES~three knives.
LL Soares also gives THE DARK KNIGHT RISES ~three knives.











